Wie findet man den Laufwerkspfad der HW-Brieftasche? Um alte Wallets zu regenerieren, wird der Laufwerkspfad zusammen mit der Seed-Phrase benötigt. Liege ich richtig?

[root_s2yse8vt]

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Die Leute schreiben ihre Seeds auf, aber nicht den Laufwerkspfad. Meinem Verständnis nach wird der Seed verschiedene Wallets generieren, wenn der Laufwerkspfad unterschiedlich ist, wenn Sie Ihr altes Wallet regenerieren wollen, falls die HW verloren geht oder beschädigt wird. Wenn dieselben Wallets nicht generiert werden, haben Sie keinen Zugriff auf Ihre Münzen, auch nicht mit der richtigen Seed-Phrase. Korrigieren Sie mich, wenn ich falsch liege.

[DarrenAlex]

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It’s an industry standard. The derivation path (not the drive path) starts at a predetermined path (e.g. for ETH in Ledger it’s m/44’/60’/x’/0/0, where x counts up)

It has this format:

`m/purpose/coin/account/receiving/index`

You can read more about it [here](https://learnmeabitcoin.com/technical/derivation-paths)

The 44 stands for the BIP44 standard, and the 60 stands for Ethereum (BTC is 0, Dogecoin is 3, etc, the list is [here](https://github.com/satoshilabs/slips/blob/master/slip-0044.md).

Typically, wallets will only mess with the last or the third-last number. Wallets also don’t stop at the first number, they go through a few. So unless you went with the millionth wallet, you’ll find your wallet within a few seconds of importing into your desired wallet.

[GlorForgewright]

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The word you are looking for is derivation path, not drive path.

Take a look at here:
https://blog.ledger.com/understanding-crypto-addresses-and-derivation-paths/

[Stebbin8r]

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NOTE: I FOUND THE FOLLOWING REDDIT COMMENT THAT GAVE ME A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW LEDGER USES A COMBO OF BIP PROTOCOLS (BIP 32/39/44)

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Yes, bip39 is the standardization of a specific list of words for a given language, and the process of transforming those words into a 512 bit hex seed that is the seed for generating a bip32 hd wallet.

bip32 = hd wallets, what they are how they work

bip39 = specific type of mnemonic, and the process for turning it into a bip32 seed

bip44 = a specific format of a bip32 wallet

So any wallet that says it’s „BIP 32/39/44 compatible“ will give you 12-24 words as the „seed“ and use those words to deterministically generate a 512 bit seed to deterministically create a bip32 master key, and then create and use child keys in the manner specified by bip44.

For example, my phone app might give me the words:

cheese upset pudding inmate flavor crush hard same element index laugh supreme

which I then use the bip39 specification to derive the 512 bits:

8b3137dc79f912e4c5cddbe4bbe313abd0a0a8cf2441dcf4d664655087e8c202431e8e7b2503e63426703b3c773a12473a94c39058e7fb0784ab570b80ed0a23

which I use as a bip32 seed to generate the master private key:

xprv9s21ZrQH143K3Wjn9PzvdHooVbaSauXnawrxMhi7BdR1PrC41x51WTBWybzSjUaiPVH6BusrpupCkouMgAkBGtNJhb3bqpmRuKG5vrH96GL

which I can use to find the child key m/44’/0’/0’/0/0 (a specific bip32 child key, as outlined in the bip44 specification), which gives me the first non-change address of

1LPdUu1qKXFTowobD9uB62QesdodtV2ugx

with the private key

KziXBfNy2eZEKHdZeBZQ3ZyW3joXcv2k66yHuKPaDgNwEX76wMPU

Go ahead, (backup and then) wipe the data for Mycelium and enter those words and you’ll see that as the first address.

[pringles_ledger]

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Hey – You’re correct that the derivation path, along with the seed phrase, is important when restoring a wallet. The derivation path is a piece of information that is used in combination with your seed phrase to generate the private keys for your individual cryptocurrency wallets.

However, Ledger devices use standard derivation paths for each cryptocurrency, which are automatically used when you restore your wallet using your 24-word recovery phrase. Therefore, you typically don’t need to know or record your derivation path.

If you’re using a different wallet software that requires you to input a derivation path, you may need to find this information. In such cases, it’s recommended to contact the support team of the wallet software you’re using for assistance.

For more information about recovery phrases check out this article below.
https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000380313-Manage-your-private-keys-own-your-crypto

[Disastrous_Visit_674]

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Not sure I understand everything but if by path you mean additional passphrase build upon your 24 seeds , yes people need to remember each passphrase and to which 24 seed it’s link in case of multiple 24 seeds with multiple passphrase on each one.

[loupiote2]

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You are referring to derivation paths, nor „drive paths“.

Derivation path schemes used by ledger are well known and in general match standards used by most other wallets.

There are just a few exceptions, e.g. older ETH accounts created by ledger before ledger live existed were derived using derivation paths that were, at the times, used by MyEtherWallet (referred as „legacy / MEW“).

> Correct me if I am wrong.

It is a good idea to write down the derivation paths and xpub of each of your ledger accounts, but in general recovery of your old ledger wallets will not be a problem even if you don’t know the derivation paths (because we know what derivation path scheme ledger live uses).

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