Ist Ledger immer noch der Platzhirsch im Kühlhaus?
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15. Juli 2023 um 14:35 Uhr #2672972
root_s2yse8vt
Administrator::Hallo zusammen,
Ich habe einen alten Nano S, aber wie ich sehe, werden sie nicht einmal mehr verkauft.
Ich bin immer wieder in Krypto und war auf der Suche nach einem aktualisierten Kältespeicher Gerät zu bekommen, aber ich sehe eine Menge Hass gegenüber Ledger online gerade jetzt.
Sind sie noch sicher zu verwenden….ist der Nano X ein guter Kauf, oder sollte ich für die Stax warten?
Ist der Touchscreen der einzige wirkliche Unterschied zwischen den beiden. Ich bin mir nicht sicher, ob das genug ist, um den Preis zu rechtfertigen, da ich es immer noch an meinen PC und mein Telefon anschließen muss, um es zu bedienen, also wird es sowieso einen Touchscreen haben lol.
Danke für die Infos!
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15. Juli 2023 um 14:35 Uhr #2672973
grandphuba
Gast::There were two things that put Ledger on the top before:
1. Breadth of networks it supports.
2. The notion that it uses a secure element from which a seed nor the derived keys cannot be exported.1 is still true to this day. 2 has been shown to not be the case anymore nor was it ever was. While you did need to have some level of trust to accept 2 (and perhaps the supposed audits they brag about in marketing; though I never have seen them) before, the fact they have misled people (nevermind the data breaches) makes one question if one should keep trusting them.
It’s up to you to decide whether you think you should stick to Ledger, just don’t ignore that factor of trust, let alone proselytize to others that nothing has changed.
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15. Juli 2023 um 14:35 Uhr #2672974
bje332013
Gast::I’m not sure if Ledger was ever „top dog,“ but there is little doubt in my mind that their stubborn insistence on rolling out Ledger Recover on the Nano X and S Plus has alienated the trust of a significant portion of their existing customers. I am also pretty sure that most would-be Ledger customers were driven toward competitors as a result of the aforementioned decision, Ledger’s stupid refusal to even consult its customers about what they want, and how they contradicted claims they had made about their devices making it impossible for private keys to be extracted.
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15. Juli 2023 um 14:35 Uhr #2672975
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15. Juli 2023 um 14:35 Uhr #2672979
DragonflyGloomy9768
Gast::I won’t be buying another Ledger.
I had my Nano S for 5 years, used it a handful of times, the display has gone (when I installed the update) and even though it has been looked after, meticulously, Ledger won’t do anything. I don’t rate their products at all. I’m sure there are other cold wallets out there that will last more than 5 years.
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15. Juli 2023 um 14:35 Uhr #2672980
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15. Juli 2023 um 14:35 Uhr #2672985
r_a_d_
Gast::The Ledger devices are the ones with the cleanest track record and have never been compromised even if they were one of the first players in the field. They are the only ones to actually implement their own software stack in the secure element. The only downside of that is that not everything is open-source due to NDA with the chip OEM. However, they had it certified and audited by third parties and all the „Nano Apps“ that perform the higher level cryptocurrency functions are on github.
With that said, find the wallet that best fits your use case. Perhaps stay away from the ones that don’t use secure elements since they are always less secure.
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15. Juli 2023 um 14:35 Uhr #2672986
Striking_Tangerine93
Gast::I don’t think there is a clear winner. I think a lot users are upset about false claims Ledger was making and that they are trying to offer subscription services. But Trezor and Ledger both have their pros and cons. But either one should be fine. I would stay away from 2nd tier companies, but that is just my personal opinion.
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15. Juli 2023 um 14:35 Uhr #2672987
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15. Juli 2023 um 14:35 Uhr #2672999
pringles_ledger
Gast::Hey – Ledger devices is still a cold storage wallet. When launched, Recover will be completely optional and require your explicit consent to be activated, we’ll never force you to use the service. If you don’t like the service, ignore it and continue using your device as before, you’re always in control
Also updating the firmware will not activate Ledger Recover service by Coincover. And this update does not give Ledger any additional access, so it does not compromise security. You can either choose to buy a Nano X or Stax if you’re planning to use your Ledger with your phone. We’d encourage you to check out the white paper for an in-depth overview of the service:
https://blog.ledger.com/Ledger-Recover-White-Paper/If you only plan on using it with your desktop then you can buy Ledger Nano S Plus which offers the same security and capacity as Nano X but does not have a battery and Bluetooth. This article will provide you with detailed information on different Ledger devices.
https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015259693-Choose-your-Ledger-device -
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15. Juli 2023 um 14:35 Uhr #2673003
weedium
Gast::IMO, yes. That’s really all you’ll get here, opinions. Open source means nothing when you can’t read and understand code. Then you still have to trust someone. Ledger has zero hacks, decent sized company based out of France. Not a six man company selling HW wallets. Also not a Chinese company.
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