Der Begriff „Brieftasche“ ist in Wirklichkeit eine falsche Bezeichnung, die Neulinge in die Irre führt

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    • #477539
      root_s2yse8vt
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      Ich verstehe, dass es ein bequemer Begriff ist, aber er ist sehr irreführend für diejenigen, die neu in der Kryptowelt sind.

      Ich erschaudere jedes Mal, wenn jemand sagt, dass er sich Sorgen um seine Kryptowährung macht, wenn sein Gerät kaputt geht.

      Das Gerät speichert Ihre Kryptowährung NICHT, alle Kryptowährungen befinden sich IMMER auf ihren jeweiligen Blockchains.

      Was das Gerät speichert, sind die privaten Schlüssel, die verwendet werden, um Ihre öffentlichen Schlüssel und Ihre öffentliche Adresse zu generieren (um Krypto zu empfangen) und um Transaktionen zu signieren (um Krypto zu senden).

      Ihr privater Schlüssel ist lediglich eine Zahlenfolge, die unter anderem binär (256 Bit), hexadezimal oder im WIF-Format (Wallet Imported Format) ausgedrückt werden kann.

      Um es einfach zu halten: Der Kern von Krypto ist Mathematik. Proof of Work beinhaltet Mathematik, Kryptographie beinhaltet Mathematik.

      Ihre privaten und öffentlichen Schlüssel können mit Ihrem Recovery-Seed wiederhergestellt werden. Dafür ist es gedacht. Im Grunde speichern Sie (idealerweise offline) eine Zahl, die benötigt wird, um Ihre „Wallet“ wiederherstellen zu können.

      Alle diese Hardware-Wallets sind nur Mittel, um Ihren privaten Schlüssel so sicher wie möglich zu speichern und zu verwalten.

      Wenn überhaupt, Trezor, Ledger, etc. sind Hardware „Key Manager“, aber das hat nicht einen schönen Klang zu ihm.

    • #477540
      VariousJackfruit
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      I can understand how it might be confusing to newbies, but Ledger didn’t come with the term, and the term wallet has been used in cryptocurrency since some of the the earliest software (for example, Bitcoin-QT). It’s basically used by every application that people use to manage their crypto balances now.

      Many terms like this in crypto are basically abstractions. For example, there’s really no such thing as „coins“ either, just entries on a distributed ledger (that we call the blockchain). You could even argue that talking about „coins“ and „wallets“ made this technology more approachable by newbies than if you were talking about keys, key-managers, binary strings, etc.

      It’s probably better that people just educate themselves how it all works than change nomenclature mid-stream now.

    • #477541
      itsnotlupus
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      The term „wallet“ is perfectly appropriate.
      If you have your wallet, you can spend your coins. If you don’t, you can’t.

      Since it’s a digital wallet, you can make backups of it, and thanks to some cool technology you can even make written backups of it with only a few words.

      If someone else gets access to your wallet or its backups, they can spend your coins.

      That’s it. You don’t need to throw concepts of elliptical cryptography or key derivation systems at newbies, it won’t help. You don’t need to talk about keys, but you do need to explain how addresses are used and why they’re really important to get right, almost as important as keeping one’s wallet safe. In contrast, almost nobody needs to know a bitcoin address is a hash of a hash of a public key.

      Describing it as a digital wallet is a very high level abstraction that’s sufficient for most people to grasp the basics well enough to use it, and it’s also guaranteed to be a lot less confusing than more detailed technical descriptions that’ll only sound like technobabble to ordinary folks.

    • #477542
      klimauk
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      „but it’s very misleading for those new to crypto.“
      They should learn then like with other things.

    • #477543
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      Yes, basically a „crypto wallet“ is just a container for your seed phrase (and the keys derived from it). People have to understand that!

      I never use this term. It’s better to use the words „seed“, keys and accounts (or addresses).

    • #477544
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      Maybe a more apt term might’ve been „key-chain“.

      But alas, „wallet“ is the term now, and it’s just one of those terms where context defines the difference between its non-crypto and its crypto meaning.

      I.e. if you’re in crypto and use the term, part of your education is to know what it actually means. It *would’ve* been better to have a more apt term from the beginning, but this is how it *is* and a change, even via concerted effort, seems unlikely by now.

      Or at least, the amount of effort required to convince key parties to change the term they use, in order to (over time) affect which term is used in the whole crypto-ecosystem, seems higher than it’s worth.

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      I really don’t think it is. It’s a thing that you access when you want to store, spend, and transfer your money. Just because it’s not 100% identical in function to an actual wallet doesn’t make it a bad name. Frankly calling it something like a „keychain“ is just going to cause beginners even more confusion. People tend to learn the basics of using the thing first before they dig into the fundamentals of how it works.

    • #477546
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      If they can’t understand wallet and how it works in crypto how are they going to understand „Your private key is just a string of numbers that can be expressed in binary (256 bits), hexadecimal, or WIF (Wallet Imported Format), among others.“

    • #477547
      Anand999
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      The way I like to explain it to people is that the blockchain is basically like a vault full of safety deposit boxes, like what you’d see at a bank. Each box has a slot in it that let’s anyone put things into it but you can’t take anything out of them. You can see everyone’s box, and there’s a ledger detailing every time someone has moved something from one box to another.

      Your „wallet“ is the key to unlock your specific box, which allows you to take your things out of it, which you can then put into your intended recipient’s box. You can make unlimited copies of your key, and anyone that happens to see your key can make their own copy. That’s why it’s important you don’t let anyone else have access to your key.

    • #477548
      espresso_chain
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      should’ve been called a keyring from the start. I’ve always hated the term „wallet“.

    • #477549
      gavvin16
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      Until people educate themselves on what a fiat wallet is (ie. a container for government debt notes), there is no hope that they will understand what is different about a crypto wallet, and why they must have one.

    • #477550
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      I keep my debit card in my wallet. My card is basically a means of accessing my funds. It does not physically contain them. This is no different than a crypto wallet that holds my access key to my crypto. If someone hasn’t read enough about crypto to understand this concept, perhaps they’re not ready to enter the space.

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      jbr945
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      Keys would have been better, I agree.

    • #477552
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      „key managers“ is true, but since „manage“ is vague, when you’re explaining how wallets are different, one might as well break it down by function.

      All wallets hold keys, send and receive crypto, and let you sign (by encrypting the message with your private key in the background).

      Some let you see/send NFTs.
      Some let you browse dapps.

    • #477553
      onedayatatime26
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      Thanks, I recently learned this a few weeks ago and your post is worthy of an award…if I frigging had 1…sorry.

    • #477554
      mitchcrypto
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      Good point. Crypto keyholder then? Or crypto key wallet? I know, I miss imagination 🙁
      Any other suggestions?

    • #477555
      m-nightwalker
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      Well explained. Friend of mine asked me to explain basic things about crypto and blockchains, one specific question was what is hardware wallet. I told him to imagine it as a keyring that holds keys to his different coins on their respective blockchains (after I explained what is blockchain). That worked well with him, he got it pretty quick.

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